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This is a pretty long stamp, at least 10 frames. It starts with ' God loves everyone'
The stamp says:

God Loves everyone
"for God So loved the world.. John 3;16
It doesn't say' For God so loved the Christians
It says For God so loved the world.
That means you and me Christian or not.
Gay or Straight
Black or white
We are all God's Children
God Loves EVERYONE




Now hear me out on this one. I'm not saying that you don't have to be a Christian to go to heaven. You do need to confess your sins and accept Jesus.

I'm not perfect, so please don't take this as me being preachy. I'm not trying to be. I believe that you can be a Christian and be a different skin color. I also believe that their can be gay Christians. God loves EVERYONE!
He doesn't limit salvation to the good people of the world. Anyone and everyone can be a Christian( Follow Jesus)
It's not like God's not going to give you Salvation because your white, black, gay straight.



Please, now people. I'm not a person who likes to argue. So please don't leave me nasty comments. This stamp is meant to show that God's love is for everyone and is not limited to certain people. Internet fighting is dumb. So please, I don't want to have to disable comments.

If you do feel the need to leave a mean comment, i can't stop you. I'll pray for you :D


Also, I don't know if anyone else had made a stamp like this. I just went on what i thought


EDIT
I got a note from another user on here. The note I got made sense so I'm gonna share my opinion and things others have said to me. I'm confused on this subject, but anyway.
Can There be homosexual Christians?
In my opinion yes, if you are struggling with these temptations. While it is against God's will.
God will see you through this problem.
My mom told me that there can be homosexual Christians as long as they are not living the 'lifestyle' (in unrepentant violation of God's Will and command).
I have also heard this from others as well.
I hope i shed a little light on this.
I'm not trying to offend anybody.


EDIT 2
I'll post good feedback i get here. With permission of course.
The note I got.
I have permission from the sender to post it here.


Hi,

I just wanted to send a note about the "God loves everyone" stamp you recently made. While I understand the message that you're trying to get across, you must realize that not everyone who claims to be a Christian actually is. For example:there are Christians struggling with homosexual temptations, but someone who claims to be a Christian yet lives the Gay lifestyle(in unrepentant violation of God's Will and command) is not a Christian.
-End note-

Comment from ~saint-miykael

Eh heh. I don't want to be argumentative or anything, nor do I desire to claim that God doesn't have a certain degree of love or care for every person he's ever made, (clearly He does) but it very much irks me when people emphasize "world" in "for God so loved the world", because it paints a very warped picture of God's relation toward fallen man... So I'd like to discuss it a little.

The word in the Greek for 'world' is Kosmos. Kosmos can mean everything from the entire world and everything/everyone in it to everything/everyone within a certain group. It's all dependant upon the context. In English, if we isolate that phrase from that verse, as you have done here, we can say that God loves everyone equally and wants everyone to be saved and that Christ died for everyone... But there's a problem with this. The rest of scripture would contend otherwise. (God help me, this is where the normal church-goer bites my head off and calls me a heretic.)

[Please see this link.]
[link]

"8) any aggregate or general collection of particulars of any sort
a) the Gentiles as contrasted to the Jews (Rom. 11:12 etc)
b) of believers only, John 1:29; 3:16; 3:17; 6:33; 12:47 1 Cor. 4:9; 2 Cor. 5:19"

That is not just one man's opinion; that is what the Greek scholars such as Thayer and Strong say; that in John 3:16 the word kosmos is referring to believers only, which also becomes clear when one looks at the rest of the verse, let alone the passage, in English. "For God so loved the [kosmos] world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

The tools and rules of hermeneutics, the rules of good bible interpretation, teach us that when there are a broad passage and a narrow passage speaking on a subject that the narrow passage, the passage which is more specific, takes precedence over the broad passage. In this case, Ephesians 5:25 takes precedence over John 3:16. John 3:16 is broad and uses the word (in English) "world", although the context makes it clear that it means believers. However, Ephesians 5:25 identifies that Christ didn't die for the whole world, but died for believers only; Christ died for the church, and that verse is clearly exclusive. "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;" The very nature of the concept is exclusive, not open or inclusive. We are to love our wives with a very special love unlike the love that we may have for any other person on earth, even moreso than our children, in fact.

So am I saying that God doesn't love the world? No. Anyone who knows God knows that God cares even for His enemies, God clearly demonstrates this about Himself in the OT even, such as in the story of Jonah. But what I am saying is that Christ died for the church exclusively, and that God's love for the church, believers, is a special love unlike any other love He may have for anyone. It's a completely different kind of love altogether, just as a man has a special love for his wife, radically unlike the love he may have for any other woman on the earth.

You're welcome to get angry and start calling me names now. Don't worry, I have tea, so I'll be fine, ha ha ha...

Oh, I'm very sorry, I forgot one more very important thing that I should have mentioned.

In the Greek there is no word for "whosoever". It is formed from three words (which unfortunately I can't recall off of the top of my head at the moment) which would be much better translated as, "Every one who". The words translated as whosoever doesn't mean anyone who casually feels like it, (although God will not turn anyone down who truly believes, I absolutely assure you) it means "every one who". So God so loved the Kosmos that He gave His only begotten Son, so that every one who believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. That reads a tad differently, yes? ^_^
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:iconsaint-miykael:
Eh heh. I don't want to be argumentative or anything, nor do I desire to claim that God doesn't have a certain degree of love or care for every person he's ever made, (clearly He does) but it very much irks me when people emphasize "world" in "for God so loved the world", because it paints a very warped picture of God's relation toward fallen man... So I'd like to discuss it a little.

The word in the Greek for 'world' is Kosmos. Kosmos can mean everything from the entire world and everything/everyone in it to everything/everyone within a certain group. It's all dependant upon the context. In English, if we isolate that phrase from that verse, as you have done here, we can say that God loves everyone equally and wants everyone to be saved and that Christ died for everyone... But there's a problem with this. The rest of scripture would contend otherwise. (God help me, this is where the normal church-goer bites my head off and calls me a heretic.)

[Please see this link.]

"8) any aggregate or general collection of particulars of any sort
a) the Gentiles as contrasted to the Jews (Rom. 11:12 etc)
b) of believers only, John 1:29; 3:16; 3:17; 6:33; 12:47 1 Cor. 4:9; 2 Cor. 5:19
"

That is not just one man's opinion; that is what the Greek scholars such as Thayer and Strong say; that in John 3:16 the word kosmos is referring to believers only, which also becomes clear when one looks at the rest of the verse, let alone the passage, in English. "For God so loved the [kosmos] world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

The tools and rules of hermeneutics, the rules of good bible interpretation, teach us that when there are a broad passage and a narrow passage speaking on a subject that the narrow passage, the passage which is more specific, takes precedence over the broad passage. In this case, Ephesians 5:25 takes precedence over John 3:16. John 3:16 is broad and uses the word (in English) "world", although the context makes it clear that it means believers. However, Ephesians 5:25 identifies that Christ didn't die for the whole world, but died for believers only; Christ died for the church, and that verse is clearly exclusive. "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;" The very nature of the concept is exclusive, not open or inclusive. We are to love our wives with a very special love unlike the love that we may have for any other person on earth, even moreso than our children, in fact.

So am I saying that God doesn't love the world? No. Anyone who knows God knows that God cares even for His enemies, God clearly demonstrates this about Himself in the OT even, such as in the story of Jonah. But what I am saying is that Christ died for the church exclusively, and that God's love for the church, believers, is a special love unlike any other love He may have for anyone. It's a completely different kind of love altogether, just as a man has a special love for his wife, radically unlike the love he may have for any other woman on the earth.

You're welcome to get angry and start calling me names now. Don't worry, I have tea, so I'll be fine, ha ha ha...

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-- GK Chesterton
:iconsaint-miykael:
Oh, I'm very sorry, I forgot one more very important thing that I should have mentioned.

In the Greek there is no word for "whosoever". It is formed from three words (which unfortunately I can't recall off of the top of my head at the moment) which would be much better translated as, "Every one who". The words translated as whosoever doesn't mean anyone who casually feels like it, (although God will not turn anyone down who truly believes, I absolutely assure you) it means "every one who". So God so loved the Kosmos that He gave His only begotten Son, so that every one who believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. That reads a tad differently, yes? ^_^

--
"The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried."
-- GK Chesterton
:iconsailorsolar:
I won't call you names or anything like that. I generally don't like to argue. So,

Thankies for your comment :D

Would you mind if I put your comment in the description to this deviation?

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Not at all, be my guest.

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:iconsailorsolar:
Thanks :D

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:iconsaint-miykael:
Yep. =)

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Haha gay or straight. mad me laugh on that one.

but true...so true my friend : ] God loves all no matter who they are.

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I agree to a point. I believe God's love is available to everyone but not everyone wants it, and He doesn't force it. And I don't believe we are all God's children, only those who choose to be adopted into His Kingdom.

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